From Gospel Plays to Hollywood Billions: Tyler Perry's Evolution Divides the Barbershop - Ep. 5

When a provocative barbershop question makes its way to our roundtable, sparks fly. "Does Tyler Perry help or hurt us?" becomes the catalyst for one of our most passionate debates yet about Black representation in media.

The journey through Tyler Perry's career evolution reveals fascinating perspectives from each host. We trace his path from Christian-themed stage plays on the chitlin circuit to becoming Hollywood's first Black billionaire studio owner. What changed along the way? Dennis doesn't hold back, arguing that excessive profanity and negative stereotypes in Perry's work ultimately hurt the Black community despite his entertainment value. Byron offers a more nuanced take, suggesting Perry initially helped by providing inspirational messaging before commercial success altered his approach.

Our conversation examines the portrayal of Black men in Perry films – often depicted as struggling figures who need saving rather than leaders. We question whether Perry's responsibility to positive representation shifted as his wealth and influence grew. The discussion broadens to other successful Black entertainers like Jamie Foxx and Kevin Hart, asking whether the pursuit of mainstream success inevitably leads to compromising authentic representation.

The debate touches on deeper questions about capitalism, entertainment ethics, and responsibility. At what point does artistic evolution become selling out? When does representation become exploitation? These questions resonate beyond Tyler Perry to the entire entertainment industry's approach to Black stories and characters.

Between passionate exchanges, we lighten the mood with Byron's discovery of the perfect pairing – Buffalo Trace bourbon with Buffalo Trace cigars, a combination that changes the flavor profile in surprising ways. This blend of cultural critique and premium indulgence captures the essence of our podcast.

Whether you agree with our takes or have your own perspective to share, join us for this unfiltered conversation. Comment and let us know your thoughts – we promise to respond. Sip slow, sip often, and sip with us as we tackle the complex questions about media, representation, and responsibility.

Chapters

• 0:00 Episode Introduction & Greetings
• 2:01 The Big Question: Tyler Perry's Impact
• 4:01 Negative Stereotypes & Representation Critique
• 9:32 From Christian Plays to Hollywood Evolution
• 18:22 Money, Morality, and Fame
• 25:58 Buffalo Trace Cigar Pairing
• 28:54 Episode Closing & Sign-Off

Transcript

Byron B: 0:00

Cue the music.

Jimmy Jefferson: 0:09

What's up? What's up? Gang Puff and Drink family. We are back for yet again, another episode.

Byron B: 0:16

I am Rodney Q Love and, to my right, we got Byron B here and I bring to the table some hot stuff. One of the things we have appearing of the day it will be a Buffalo Trace cigar with the Buffalo Trace bourbon. Oh, we're going to have to talk about that.

Jimmy Jefferson: 0:38

We're going to have to talk about that. I definitely want to hear about that.

Byron B: 0:41

Yeah, it's pretty good man I had it and I agree with it and everything Okay. But yeah, and I'm Byron B and that's what I bring.

Jimmy Jefferson: 0:49

All right, I'm Jimmy Jefferson and I'm bringing the barbershop talk tonight, and it's it's a good one, trust me. Y'all going to want to take and jump in on this, and then we're probably going to get some comments about it.

Rodney Q Love: 1:07

I'm not trying, piss nobody off, but it is what it is. There we go, it's what we do.

Jimmy Jefferson: 1:15

I'm Dennis Cotton and I'm just here to hang out, have some fun, have a little drink, just a little, just a little.

Rodney Q Love: 1:19

And just hang out with the boys.

Jimmy Jefferson: 1:23

Well, gentlemen, our sacramental toast. Yeah, please observe our logo gang. Yeah, we are going mainstream. So, mr Jefferson, tell us what you got for us. Sir, okay, I heard this in the barbershop the other day and again, you know we specialize in the barbershop talk and we always like to, you know, make sure that we talk about what's going on in day and also this stuff.

Jimmy Jefferson: 1:51

Right, this came up in the shop and I wanted to bring it to y'all and I said I that's why I didn't even tell y'all what the topic was before, because I wanted to hear y'all right off the rip. It's probably gonna piss y'all off. The question came up in the barbershop Does Tyler Perry help or hurt us? That is a good question. Okay, all right, I see our engineer even peering around the corner.

Jimmy Jefferson: 2:19

With that being said and everything else, what are the things that came up out of the conversation at the barbershop or anything else about this? Was that of know it, of course there's a bunch of guys in there. I think it was like maybe a couple females in there, that kind of thing, but okay, it was mostly guys. And then they were, you know, just adamant, like you know, f tyler perry. You know he ain't doing shit for us. All he do is yap the app you. He only making these movies and plays for y'all. Yada, yada, yada. So I said, okay. When I heard this, I'm like, okay, I'm going to take it back to my crew and then we're going to have a conversation and see what they think about it and also keep in mind, we want to throw this out to everybody else. We want to see y'all do have the ability to comment and we want to hear y'all comments and, trust me, we will comment back.

Byron B: 3:06

Oh, yeah, definitely and I think that conversation can actually be branched off into many different directions oh, absolutely. I have a view and I guarantee you my view. You probably never even thought about it, but it's just.

Jimmy Jefferson: 3:24

You know, opinions are like assholes, right Everybody has one, everybody got one, and no disrespect to any of their opinions, but you know, and it's just the way I feel and what I observe, okay, okay.

Byron B: 3:41

So, yeah, we can take that, bring that to the table, all right. So let's kick it off.

Jimmy Jefferson: 3:45

All right, Dennis, you heard it and I know your mind is already turning. I can see the smoke out your ears, yes, it is. So I'm going to throw it back again. Does Tyler Perry help or hurt us?

Rodney Q Love: 3:59

He definitely hurts us. Oh, he is a very talented producer. Producer and his shows are very entertaining but when you dig into it, it puts black people, african American people whatever you want to call yourselves in a negative perspective. Way, way, way too much profanity on virtually all his shows that I've seen.

Byron B: 4:23

Now.

Rodney Q Love: 4:24

Now.

Jimmy Jefferson: 4:27

I've been to his plays and I agree with Dennis on that too His plays. He does use quite a bit of profanity.

Byron B: 4:32

When he first started off, it wasn't like that when he first started off he had the ease.

Rodney Q Love: 4:40

That's part of my Too much. What's the word? Sexualization of our black women? Combine that with the cursing. Every other word is bitch. Fuck you and bitch again you gotta finish it out.

Jimmy Jefferson: 4:56

Is it Well-rounded person?

Rodney Q Love: 5:00

You just can't say one word without the other.

Jimmy Jefferson: 5:02

Well, you know, we have to.

Rodney Q Love: 5:04

In the end it just puts a very negative stereotype. I'm going to go with African-American. I'm old school. I had no problems with black men.

Jimmy Jefferson: 5:17

But you know.

Rodney Q Love: 5:18

I guess at least twice a week I'll go with African-American just to be politically correct.

Byron B: 5:23

We'll talk about that word also. African-american is to be politically correct. We'll talk about that word also. African-american is not just black people. No, if there was a white guy born.

Jimmy Jefferson: 5:31

From South Africa.

Byron B: 5:32

If he's in South Africa and comes to America.

Jimmy Jefferson: 5:35

He owns a car company.

Byron B: 5:36

He's an.

Jimmy Jefferson: 5:36

African-American the hell you say he owns a car company. The hell you say, a failing car company. But that's another story we're not going to get into that. I don't want to have to deal with that as our producer, Tyler Perry.

Rodney Q Love: 5:49

I don't know, maybe if this is not right, but I'm going to do it anyway. I see Tyler Perry in the same realm as Barack Obama. Ooh.

Jimmy Jefferson: 6:01

I know that's right.

Rodney Q Love: 6:04

Tyler Perry is in a position where he should be bringing out the best of his people. Right now, he's just using us for entertainment, for entertainment purposes.

Jimmy Jefferson: 6:17

I have to admit you're on to something, because when you look at how he sexualizes not even sexualizes how he portrays the brothers we're the ones who always have to be saved. You know, we don't always come in at the top of the ladder or anything like that. We always have to have you know we're the struggling job, like the one where the brother was the mechanic and he met the successful sister who couldn't find it. Or the brother that was struggling, trying to get his invention out.

Rodney Q Love: 6:56

Yeah, exactly that one. Right, there was something. Yeah, now I like the twist at the end.

Jimmy Jefferson: 7:03

I mean, don't get me wrong, that was actually a pretty decent twist.

Byron B: 7:06

And there's a two coming out oh.

Jimmy Jefferson: 7:08

God, one was in the acrimony.

Byron B: 7:09

Acrimony yeah.

Jimmy Jefferson: 7:11

You know, but again you know.

Byron B: 7:13

There's a two coming out.

Jimmy Jefferson: 7:14

Yeah, and Rodney, I'm sorry for interrupting you and everything else, but it was just one of those things where when you see these kind of movies and see these kind of movies, and to your point I agree that we're not in the best of light.

Byron B: 7:25

I'm sorry.

Jimmy Jefferson: 7:28

We're just not. We're always in a rebuilding phase, but we can't rebuild without the sister coming down and helping you. We're in the reverse Superman move. Or either we find out that what we were doing was stupid, we were just stupid. You know that kind of thing. You didn't ask her, you didn't check with her, even though you were on the right path, because Akramani's brother was on the right path, well, yeah, but not in the beginning. No, he wasn't. But then you had to ask the question was she supporting him? Well, let's not get too far off the track. But she did say look, dude, I need a little help. I gave you everything.

Jimmy Jefferson: 8:12

And old boy he was still chasing a unicorn Right right, right, right, right.

Byron B: 8:17

Stay with me, baby. He could have been bringing a little bread to the table while he was chasing his dream.

Jimmy Jefferson: 8:23

Old boy could have went to Walmart, like all of us had to. We all work jobs. We ain't want to fucking do True true. But old boy was like I'm sitting on this couch until there's such and such. Okay, so was Tyler right in that portrayal. Then, Through that one, I have to say yeah, Okay, okay.

Byron B: 8:43

And again we have to say yeah, Okay, Okay. And again we have to realize a lot is entertainment? It is, but it strikes some chords.

Jimmy Jefferson: 8:51

Oh yeah, definitely, but we also know somebody that fits into that. Yeah, I've been a black man for a few years. We all know that, one brother that I'm not getting a job unless I get exactly what I want. It's life, it's life.

Rodney Q Love: 9:13

Tyler Perry. Obviously he's very successful. Phenomenally, I can never pronounce the word.

Jimmy Jefferson: 9:19

He's a multi-billionaire. He's actually officially a multi-billionaire.

Rodney Q Love: 9:24

So shouldn't he? Is it His place to present material to bring out the best in african-americans, or is it just purely for entertainment, no matter how good or bad it looks? Is he is he all about? Should he be all about the money or all about uplifting?

Byron B: 9:45

okay, or maybe both now here's my, my take on the situation. Okay, so I'm gonna say he actually helps okay, okay, the Actually helps Okay. The community. All right, Now this is why I say this, because he gives you an option. Okay, the path you're going, you don't have to go that way. Okay, this is something you can do and this is how you can lift yourself up. Okay, inspirational, okay Aspect aspects of things. Here's the problem I have with him. When he first started off, they were just plays.

Rodney Q Love: 10:28

Right the chitlin switch.

Jimmy Jefferson: 10:31

He was doing chitlin circuit. I'll explain that later.

Byron B: 10:36

Everything was based off of Christianity. Okay, really, yeah, okay.

Jimmy Jefferson: 10:44

He still infuses that you didn't have all the cursing.

Byron B: 10:47

You didn't have all the sex, you didn't have all the sex scenes in his situation. Okay, now, here it is. Now I got you, I got you, I got you, I'm making money. Let me switch to something that's really making money Sex sells, sex sells.

Rodney Q Love: 11:10

Yeah.

Byron B: 11:11

Now, if you were this person and he really got you in the beginning, when he was oh, I was homeless. God brought me up this and everything. I'm Christian. And here it is. Now you see him, women half naked on your shows. Where's Christianity?

Rodney Q Love: 11:32

at.

Byron B: 11:34

You just threw it all out the window, because now you have drawn in your crowd, which is making you more money. That's my gripe with him.

Rodney Q Love: 11:46

And I think you've just answered my question.

Jimmy Jefferson: 11:49

And I'm with Dennis on this one too, because he did a scene in one of the movies on Netflix that it was remnant to Eyes Wide Shut, you know, with Kelly Rowan. That whole scene. Those who've seen the movie you know Good show.

Byron B: 12:07

I like the show.

Jimmy Jefferson: 12:08

The premise behind it was pretty tight, but at the same time there was a scene that was reminiscent of Eyes Wide Shut. Yeah, you know for those who know who's ever seen the movie Eyes Wide Shut, but also you know for those who know who's ever seen the movie Eyes Wide Shut, right, right, you know. But also too, let's keep in mind, most of his work typecast him. So imagine Absolutely when he tried to do that action movie where you know he was the cop in Detroit.

Rodney Q Love: 12:32

I was hoping that everyone was going to be killed at the beginning of the fight.

Jimmy Jefferson: 12:36

I don't know. I think it would have been Oscar caliber if everyone had been killed at least in the first five minutes. At that point you can't help but give them an Oscar at that point. Kill everybody within the first five minutes. God damn it. That's a movie.

Rodney Q Love: 12:51

Even.

Jimmy Jefferson: 12:51

Cicely Tyson sucked in that. How is? That even possible, the greatest woman actor of our time.

Byron B: 12:59

I can't believe you said that. Yeah, you put that in your mouth.

Jimmy Jefferson: 13:03

No, different than Felicia Rashad. Oh my God, oh my God Don't talk about my Felicia, oh my God man. And again, I get what he's trying to do and I applaud the man's effort, but at the same time there's been some questionable things that he's done, where I agree with you. I've seen his early plays, where they were. Christian-based I mean literally you're getting a couple of gospel tunes to the movie. You know, somebody found Jesus in an audience. He was on the milk cart but they found him.

Jimmy Jefferson: 13:37

Give me Lord. Then you had that. Then you switched to okay, now the money coming in. Now I'm going to change my writing style because, I can't use this Jesus thing anymore because now I got to take and go and bring the money in.

Rodney Q Love: 13:57

By any means necessary.

Jimmy Jefferson: 13:59

Again, I don't think he's helped. I really and truly don't. I think he meant well, but I think his intentions have been kind of sort of scattered.

Byron B: 14:11

Let me change that. He helped in the beginning.

Jimmy Jefferson: 14:16

Oh yeah.

Byron B: 14:19

I agree with you. But when it changed gears, okay, it kind of faded off.

Jimmy Jefferson: 14:26

It didn't.

Byron B: 14:26

No, no, you're right, you're right, it didn't just drop off, right it kind of faded off. Yeah, you know because he slowly introduced the sex into it and everything. So a show my wife and I used to watch Half and Half Nots.

Jimmy Jefferson: 14:41

Okay, worst show ever. It's absolutely nothing but hot ass mess. I've seen some of it and everything else but it's just hot ass, mess.

Byron B: 14:52

Couldn't stop watching it. It's just hot ass mess. How worse? Can this get it got worse?

Jimmy Jefferson: 14:59

It did get worse. Oh my goodness.

Byron B: 15:02

I cannot believe that he went that way.

Jimmy Jefferson: 15:05

He went that way.

Byron B: 15:08

My first take and, yes, I did make up a word.

Jimmy Jefferson: 15:14

my first takes Chat GBT. It's similar to your my thoughts, your thoughts on it, your thoughts on it.

Byron B: 15:23

I got you, I got um. He helped in the beginning and it faded off and I'm not gonna say it hurt the community, it just went to entertainment. Yeah, it just fell in where everybody else was yeah okay, so did he sell us out, yes or no?

Rodney Q Love: 15:43

yes, thank you, I agree I agree with you yes, yes, he did.

Jimmy Jefferson: 15:48

He sold us out completely. I think he just pretty much went with how the trend, with everything is going.

Byron B: 15:53

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He just fell right into the pool with everybody else.

Jimmy Jefferson: 15:57

Ratings is ratings. Let's think about it. How many more? When was the last play black play you went to? It's been a minute yeah.

Rodney Q Love: 16:07

Because you had you know what was it?

Jimmy Jefferson: 16:10

Lee Butler, I think that's his name. He used to do. No, Lee Daniels. Lee Daniels used to do a ton of plays, you know, because you would always expect it coming right around Easter time.

Byron B: 16:19

Yeah.

Jimmy Jefferson: 16:20

Yeah, Lee Daniels, you know. And then, of course, you got the Medea thing and everything else. You know you go on to see one or two of them, or if not both, right, so but yeah, everything's falling off Well you can't make that kind of money either at a play like you can at the theater $100 million versus $20 million. You ain't getting $20 million out of the play.

Byron B: 16:43

Not even if you hit 30 cities.

Jimmy Jefferson: 16:44

Yeah well, I'm just saying. And then the work is hard. You know that's hard work.

Byron B: 16:51

And now you own your own studio. Yes, and growing. So where'd he get that from?

Jimmy Jefferson: 17:00

he got it.

Byron B: 17:00

He got it from go ahead, say her name, say her name medea no what? He didn't get it from medea, he got it from oprah. Oprah showed him the way well, okay, don't you.

Jimmy Jefferson: 17:14

Yeah, because he, because she, she has her own?

Rodney Q Love: 17:17

yes, yeah but oprah's pretty much, and correct me if if I'm wrong. She hasn't strayed from the path of righteousness.

Byron B: 17:24

No, no, she hasn't. All her stuff stayed the same way, but she showed him, she took him under her wing.

Rodney Q Love: 17:35

And taught him the ropes.

Byron B: 17:36

And taught him the ropes and taught him the entertainment aspect of it.

Jimmy Jefferson: 17:41

Well, she tried to show Ilyama that and you know I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, lord, I'm sorry, please forgive me, sorry.

Rodney Q Love: 17:56

You know okay.

Jimmy Jefferson: 17:56

I'm sorry. Sorry, I mean you know I'll probably get a phone call on that later, but I mean I'm just saying sorry, you know. Okay, I'm sorry. Sorry, I mean you know I'll probably get a phone call on that later, but I mean I'm just saying you know, I agree, she did. She showed them the way he listened. Yeah, he actually listened and he was taking everything in.

Jimmy Jefferson: 18:08

He actually became a billionaire by the time he was 45, so, and now he's a multi-billionaire because you know, of course, they just released another Madea movie on Netflix, so you know here's.

Byron B: 18:23

I'm rushing to watch that.

Jimmy Jefferson: 18:24

Yeah, I can't.

Byron B: 18:27

So my, so my, so my list is still entertaining.

Jimmy Jefferson: 18:30

And that's the point, right, and see, I get what he's doing and how he's done it. I just don't like the way he went about doing it. Yeah.

Rodney Q Love: 18:37

Here's done it. I just don't like the way he went about doing it. Here's my question Once you get to that level, are you not supposed to be a promoter of positivity? Let me, jamie Foxx.

Byron B: 18:50

Jamie Foxx.

Rodney Q Love: 18:50

Very successful actor comedian blah blah blah. He's promoting, he's promoting gambling, and every time I see that commercial I can't stand it. I want to punch him in his eye. He's promoting gambling.

Jimmy Jefferson: 19:04

Is it? Is it?

Rodney Q Love: 19:08

What's the Angela Bassett?

Jimmy Jefferson: 19:11

OK.

Rodney Q Love: 19:12

Lover, respecter. She has always been positive. She didn't go that way just for the dollar. She has always been positive. She didn't go that way just for the dollar. So my question is once you get to that level, aren't you supposed to, if nothing else, be neutral instead of sell yourself out for the dollar?

Jimmy Jefferson: 19:31

Which is what I personally think Jamie's done. I have a thought and I have a theory, and I have a theory, and this is just me thinking out loud. Go for it, brother.

Jimmy Jefferson: 19:37

You go where the money goes, you know, and and unfortunately you know we're, we're a capitalist society shocker, I know. I know everybody's trying to figure that out, but we are, you know. But he went where the money went and you saw jamie's evolution. You saw, know, we saw him when he did. You know the Jamie Foxx show, right, and he was on in living color, the whole nine yards initially start.

Byron B: 20:04

You know exactly.

Jimmy Jefferson: 20:05

And then he was also on the Chitlin circuit too for doing the comedy shows. That's exactly what it's called. It's called the Chitlin. They were hitting all the black comedy, you know things, and then he finally got his break, but it's just like anything else, you know, after you get to a certain point. Tyler Perry, Jamie Foxx, the list is actually endless too. Some of these guys, they, they, they pivot because the money only goes so far. With us.

Rodney Q Love: 20:34

Oh well, you can't take it with you, true, that?

Jimmy Jefferson: 20:40

You, oh well, you can't take it with you, true that you can't, you know? I mean, I guess if you were thinking about bringing along new talent and nurturing new talent, that would yeah. But again, I mean, you know, certain clicks only catch on. Yep, there's only so many ergos, there's only so many in living color raven hart.

Rodney Q Love: 20:56

Yeah, look at kevin hart.

Jimmy Jefferson: 20:58

Kevin Hart did the same thing that Jamie Foxx did.

Byron B: 21:00

Damn.

Jimmy Jefferson: 21:00

Same thing. You know what Damn.

Rodney Q Love: 21:05

I want to punch Jamie, but when I look at Kevin Hart I laugh. That's my man, kevin Hart. I guess I'm a hypocrite.

Jimmy Jefferson: 21:13

Kevin did the same thing too.

Rodney Q Love: 21:15

Which is wrong?

Jimmy Jefferson: 21:16

Kevin was just as you know. You know he was as super, you know niggerish as a guy, but he's funny yeah, yeah, okay so get this all right so the one that came out and every bought it. That number one ever bought it.

Byron B: 21:34

look, we are puffing drinks. If someone watches our show and says hey guys, I want you to come out and do a milk show, a milk commercial, and we drink coffee, we drink bourbon.

Jimmy Jefferson: 21:48

We drink wine too, and beer, and beer.

Byron B: 21:54

So alcohol, we drink alcohol. So now they want us to come out and do a milk commercial. Would we do it or no? How much is the money?

Jimmy Jefferson: 22:05

Exactly, and again, how much. There we go. Can I eat the cow here?

Rodney Q Love: 22:13

it is here, it is here, it is.

Byron B: 22:15

Jamie Foxx is a multi-talented entertainer, singer, writer, actor, whatever. Here it is. Jamie, we need you to come and act on this gambling commercial. This is what we're putting on the table and we all would do it.

Jimmy Jefferson: 22:38

And again it goes back to it's the capital of the society.

Rodney Q Love: 22:43

If.

Byron B: 22:43

I have. And who's to say that gambling is a negativity? Those who spend every dollar in the casinos and who's to say that gambling is a negativity?

Rodney Q Love: 22:51

Those who spend every dollar in the casinos trying to but it's legal.

Byron B: 22:58

Here it is.

Jimmy Jefferson: 22:59

It's a capitalist society. The hell you say.

Byron B: 23:02

You can flip that on us. For those that are alcoholics out there who can't control their drinking, here it is. We're promoting drinking. The hell, you say. See.

Jimmy Jefferson: 23:14

Damn you man, I don't know what you're talking about.

Rodney Q Love: 23:16

There's nothing but ice in this glass.

Jimmy Jefferson: 23:18

Get him off the show.

Byron B: 23:20

Nothing but ice in this glass. I'm just saying. I'm just saying the only thing I do is ice.

Jimmy Jefferson: 23:24

I don't do anything else, I just do ice.

Byron B: 23:33

That Don't do anything else I just do ice. That's all I just pose with my glass. Mine has been empty since the start of the show.

Jimmy Jefferson: 23:39

I'm just saying you can't fault Jamie for doing a gambling commercial All right. But let's slide back over for a second with Tyler Perry, because with Tyler Perry, one of the things that I think that you know we're also missing too with this for all the things that he strove to actually do, well, he actually spent a lot of time taking and beating us down. At least I feel that For Black men I still feel that way.

Byron B: 24:06

Okay.

Jimmy Jefferson: 24:07

Because when you see some of his past stuff, you can't help but think't. Help but think, my god, is that how he saw black man? Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know and and let's be realistic you know, we know what our culture looks like. We know what what this country looks like when it looks at us. You know, and I'm concerned about that because you know you have not changed or pivot to show the difference.

Jimmy Jefferson: 24:33

Yeah, yeah, you know even when, even when the one, the one flick, where the guy was super wealthy, living in a house and everything else, and he became incapacitated where he couldn't even take care of himself, his wife let him, you know, even mess himself that whole thing.

Byron B: 24:48

You know, you know what I'm saying this is after he dug the shit out of her, exactly.

Jimmy Jefferson: 24:53

But at the same time you show the worst possible scenario about this. This man has, you know, physical, you know he's got, you can tell he's wealthy, you know, but he's a piece of crap, don't get me wrong.

Jimmy Jefferson: 25:06

He's wealthy, but you show, oh my God, he's just a terrible guy. I've not seen one movie yet with a black man. That's where he's in a positive light, even the one with Kelly Rowland, even the brother that was supposedly the all that and the fat bag of chip artists. He's a fucking freak, you know, no, diddy, I'm sorry, but I'm just saying I'm sorry. No, diddy, I'm sorry, but I'm just saying I'm sorry. No, diddy, baby oil. So okay, I'm just saying these are the things I saw.

Rodney Q Love: 25:42

I mean, you know, baby oil.

Jimmy Jefferson: 25:43

So I mean, you know, Again, these are the things that I question his talent. But anyway, let's pivot again. These are the things that I question his talent. But anyway, let's pivot again, guys, and Byron, tell us what's good with our smokes.

Byron B: 25:58

So, like I said earlier, the pairing was a Buffalo Trace cigar with a Buffalo Trace bourbon cigar with the Buffalo Trace bourbon. Okay, so just having to run across this on CI International, where I buy a lot of my cigars from, it had the Buffalo Trace cigars. I'm going to try this and everything, and already I keep Buffalo Trace in the house. Yeah, you do. I'm about to hit you in the bar when I get there, keep it in the house.

Jimmy Jefferson: 26:29

It's delicious, it's delicious, it is delicious. You can pour it over ice cream. You do know that. Yes, vanilla.

Byron B: 26:37

And very reasonably priced. Yes, always. So you can always keep some of that in the house. Okay, I have it in my Bartesian. So when I make my mixed drinks, the Buffalo Traces with me and mix. Okay, all right, but anyway. Okay. So I'm out cutting the grass and I lit up a Buffalo Trace cigar. And I said you know what Grass is cut now. I'm done I want to admire my grass.

Byron B: 27:06

And I still had half a stick left, I said let me go get a drink and I went and got some Buffalo Trace bourbon with it on ice. It paired very well. Really, it changed the taste of the cigar Sip Puff and, yes, exactly that was the exact opposite of everything.

Jimmy Jefferson: 27:31

I think you were sitting back in the corner and everything else, looking at the yard with that stokey in your hand.

Byron B: 27:37

This is what grown men do. I did, but here it is. I lit it with a torch. Now this is going to be another topic in another section.

Jimmy Jefferson: 27:53

Yeah, we'll catch it on the next show.

Byron B: 27:54

We'll catch it on the next show. But there's a difference in lighting your cigar with a torch and a butane lighter. You're talking about flick my beak, flick my beak, flick my beak, yeah, yeah, that'll be on the next show, or whatever.

Jimmy Jefferson: 28:07

Big Flick, my big Flick, my big. Yeah, that'll be on the next show, or whatever. So, and you know, we may also want to throw in what Wagyu steak or beef filet we're going to eat with that, just to finish it off.

Byron B: 28:17

Yeah we do have to do a food section. Do have to do a food section.

Jimmy Jefferson: 28:22

We're going to do hopefully in the next couple of shows and everything else we're going to do a wine section too, a wine and dessert section. Yes, yes, you can smoke a cigar while eating a piece of cheesecake. Believe that.

Byron B: 28:37

Believe that.

Jimmy Jefferson: 28:37

Trust and believe that.

Byron B: 28:39

Okay, all right.

Jimmy Jefferson: 28:40

Well, gang, we have to get ready and wrap up. The thing we want to leave with you is we're puffing drinks. Sip slow, sip often and sip with us. Yes, I'm Rodney Q. Love signing out, and I'm Byron B. I'm Jimmy Jefferson.

Rodney Q Love: 29:00

Dennis Cotton.

Jimmy Jefferson: 29:02

Yeah, take care of y'all. Thanks, I'm muted. All right, cue the music All right. We did it, man, good timing, all right, alright. Cue the music Alright. We did it, man, good timing, alright Alright.

Rodney Q Love: 29:11

That's what I was doing. What did you say? I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.

Byron B: 29:20

I was.